Margot Käßmanns resignation: Background.

If you look at what topics Margot Kaessmann, (newly retired) Council of the Evangelical Church in Germany and the Lutheran Bishop of Hanover in the last few weeks was in the headlines, one could know that they are on the "Red List" of those who did distribute publicly through the media "grades" and blow the hounding disgraced person; Margot Kaessmann had to be extra careful from now on. Obviously it was not confident enough ...

A church that does not interfere, and leads a pious custom zeitgeist wallflower, kissing the feet of the policy and everywhere holds itself incompetent in the evaluation of current affairs, no one needs. She even goes to their otherwise important function, the State party to put at least a certain counterbalance. Such a tame, rückratgebrochene, despondent church is certainly not in imitation of Christ and falls to the right more and more into insignificance. What is shown not least to leave the church.

A sigh of relief went through Germany, because for the first time in years was a senior church representative who is not only to Christmas in hostilities verfranste feeling, but with a few words also about Afghanistan - nudged public debate - long overdue.

Typical representatives of a politically correct, docile churches (one) direction is a certain Mr. Klose (SPD), the good news does not know God is written on the face.

Of course, he complained in IMAGE sharp Kaessmann for what she had said to her much-discussed Christmas in Christmas sermon and demanded that she should be confined to the preaching of the Word of God.

Limit? Limit? How should we be limited to refer to something as comprehensive limitation? What about time with this word of God: "Thou shalt not kill", Mr. Klose. Is it for a limited statement? Woe to the policy if the churches would take it seriously again suddenly, what stands in the Gospels!

Be limited. What are the "barriers" had not seen Mrs. Kaessmann (before she allegedly drove through a red traffic light?)?

Margot Kaessmann talked a lot, and I think a lot of embarrassing their submissions close on the zeitgeist. But, but, lately she tried it, "to cleanse the temple" and because she was already persona non grata.

"Nothing is good in Afghanistan. All of these strategies, they have deceived us long away the fact that soldiers use weapons once and just now even civilians are killed. [...] But creating weapons obviously no peace in Afghanistan. We need more imagination for peace, for all other forms to manage conflicts. [...]
The popular daily newspapers, Kaessmann call for a swift withdrawal from Afghanistan. The justification was given a citation Käßmanns: "At the broadest scale of the Evangelical Church in Germany, this war is not justified, therefore, the violent conflict be ended as quickly as possible."

Margot Kaessmann called for in their Christmas sermon by no means for an immediate troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, they wanted to see "end violent clashes as soon as possible" which - of course, but that did no more than a mud fight was in full swing.

What Margot Kaessmann has actually broken his neck, you can read in an interview that the Berliner Zeitung am led, 24.12.2009 with her. In this they did to some central dogmas and raised legitimate questions that historians and Sun And above all, it is very serious about what it says in the Gospels. And of course this too far.

Here are some relevant passages:

"It is a great mercy that we have experienced since 1945, no war in our own country. But there is also a real profit is to recognize that German soldiers are involved in a war. It's been long repressed. I am glad that this issue is back on the agenda. Germany is not only the third largest contingent in Afghanistan. We are also the third largest arms exporter. We also earn more in the wars of which we complain then.
[...]
U.S. President Barack Obama has made ​​in his Nobel acceptance speech, the question of a just war.
We have said that peace in our memorandum very clearly: there is no just war. There may be criteria by which to justify a war, which I had already fallen hard. But according to these criteria is what is happening in Afghanistan to justify in any way. It can go just about to ask how we begin an orderly withdrawal and as a civil solution strategy can be found. This strategy is sought but not once. In the end, always tell everyone, now we need to intervene with armed force, then there will be peace. I am convinced that there are other forms of communication.

Q: Obama has so wrong when he speaks of a just war?

For me there can be no just war. I can not justify it from a Christian perspective. To just peace is to me.

Question: Is war sometimes necessary, as is claimed Obama?

That I can not see. What I would advocate would be a kind of police force. Because I might do on a world level, imagine that the UN is equipped so that they can exercise those police power. I do not legitimize war, because through him end up getting the civilian population is suffering.

Question: this country has gone a terrible war. How would you meet the other way than by force?

The argument is always: Had the Allies not intervened, there would be no peace before it was Why no strategies.? Why the opposition in Germany has not increased? Why were the tracks that led to Auschwitz were not bombed Finally, they say: Now we need to use weapons. The price to be paid for this is enormous.

Question: appeasement, Hitler had little impressed.

Nevertheless, war unleashes a potential for violence, for which I do not see any justification. War is wrong, destruction, rape in tow. War destroys all who are involved in it. I had recently visited soldiers, with their experience can not be done. It is good that there is an increased awareness of the fact that Christmas is.

Question: Now, wait for more than 2000 years Christians on God's peace. What comfort is the Christmas message?

It is the constant reminder that God wills it otherwise. War should not be God's will, have declared 1948 the churches worldwide. This announcement is a contrast society people always make them think, to a decision of conscience against the war and a clear commitment to their faith. Helmuth James Graf von Moltke impresses me about standing in front of the People's Court. He said: You Can not shake my faith. You can sentence me to death, but I stand here with my belief that nonviolence is the right attitude. I wish more people, the rebel with their Christian convictions against violence and war, and say that the hope of God's future is already here and now I have the courage to speak from a different company. "

With some of her statements are Kaessmann was obviously on a collision course with the offizuellen civil religion.

That the Bischöffn with her question about the lack of support of the German resistance has proven more than right, for example, the excellent study by the Munich-based historian Wolfgang Eggert on this subject: The Allies delivered parts of the German resistance to the Nazi henchmen even by they verlasen the names of those arrested are not on the BBC! ( Eggert: The betrayal of the Allies on the German resistance. )

One more reason to let go immediately Kaessmann sharpest chain dogs and wolves.

Michael Wohlfsohn expressed in IMAGE on 01.18.2010 as follows:

Bishop Margot Kaessmann new fuss about!
The historian Michael Wolff's son criticized the EKD Council sharply. Kaessmann had an interview with the "Berliner Zeitung" declared war could never be "just." Second World War, she said: Instead of freeing Germany by force, the Allies would prefer to advance and develop strategies, "the opposition in Germany" to strengthen.
Kaessmann: "War is wrong, destruction, rape in tow. War destroys all who are involved in it. "
Wolff's son told BILD: "Christianity is well aware of just wars. Injustice and crime can sometimes unfortunately not otherwise be defeated. If women's Kaessmann the war against the million-murderer Hitler was not fair, she has lost any measure, especially the Christian one. "(Jm)

Wolfensohn is right: Christianity knows that just wars - but is the Church's history and it is well known for many "good". In the New Testament it says, but still: who take the sword will perish by it.

That the charismatic church women may habitually a glass of wine zusprach, one could with some justification from a mirror-online-interview v. 03/20/2009 conclude with the Regional Bishop, in which you said:

Achim-Achilles.de: What you give now?
Kaessmann: I renounce alcohol.
Achim-Achilles.de: If you find that difficult?
Kaessmann: Yes, I realize at once how much a glass of wine in the evening can become a habit, but I do not want the fast and the law.. The old monks had as wonderful exceptions, such as the Sunday Times and "traveling".

Margot Kaessmann, it was therefore quite difficult to do without a glass of wine. If I had to write a screenplay, I would add a pet her, which she animates near her house to drink. Then at night the police give you a hint, "Attention is the Kaessmann." And that was it but even then.
Margot Kaessmann is then actually put their own garage "crazy"!

Picture: "The particulars of her companion took the officials to appear, although this has been made. Why, it is still unclear. "

Yes, that's strange. And why was this unknown "companion" of the bishop for not driving from? Who is he anyway ...? When even the IMAGE is funny that you have not received his personal ...

Because: 1.54 per thousand, or approximately equivalent to 'drinking a whole bottle of wine, is reported with a weight of 55 kg at 1.60 m size as.


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14 Responses to "Margot Käßmanns resignation: Background."

  1. Föhnix says:

    > "Yes, that's strange. And why was this unknown "companion" of the bishop for not driving from? Who is he anyway ...? When even the IMAGE is funny that you have not received his personal ...
    >
    > Because: 1.54 per thousand, or approximately equivalent to 'drinking a whole bottle of wine, will be announced at a weight of 55 kg at 1.60 m in size, such as ".

    Exactly! And besides, she drove the same car as Joerg Haider a VW Phaeton - but that can not be a coincidence! ;-))

    No, seriously, of course, this is about the war and its lobby. Between the lines Kaessmann made that clear that the Afghanistan war is the real issue for her resignation. Quote from their press conference:

    "The call to freedom, ethical and political challenges and to judge, I would have in the future, not as I had. The harsh criticism on a sermon about how quote "Nothing is good in Afghanistan" is to endure only when personal conviction is fully recognized. "

    What significance does this have for them, seen from the fact that this statement was at the very beginning of their statement.

  2. as mother says:

    That was my first thought - That's probably fallen into the trap! WHO BENEFITS THERE? By 23 clock to turn at a red traffic light, right? 500 m in front of their apartment? She is completely drunk, and the companion they can start driving? Who has no fear for his life? As a patrol accidentally runs over and sees it? The patrol is quicker front of her house before she can get! and they can blow? If she had already gotten out, would you let it blow hard, who should prove that she is gone? Of course the whole thing is "to preach water and drink wine," even in Lent under the motto
    Since they can only withdraw or, perhaps you know a Unfall.wer spared?

  3. Christian says:

    Fortunately went off again lightly with her. Otherwise, the establishment uncomfortable people are quite different things happened, which were then usually as a tragic "accident" ticked off with death. She took the hint, hint well. So I interpret at least resigned.

  4. fiete says:

    hello!

    I encountered a link to this article from you! many thanks. the subject had noticed only as at the edge. daily "patter" to-many set up on the one hand, one does not come with some theme to it and continue to pursue in more depth ...

    love greeting from china;

    fiete

  5. 1984 says:

    We live in a time of lies and each institution maintains them. The only way to control the masses, manipulate, mold and use it for own purposes. The average person on the street is not excluded, except those that resist conscious lies and greed. These are the unsung heroes and bloggers.

  6. Peter2509 said:

    When I drove up and fully drunk driving through an intersection on red, I can make any conspiracy claim. Since I am a criminal who deliberately Security of whom the lives of others. You should probably convert the Gehölter and modest car for the elite and climate advocates for vouchers. The booze but anyway like everything they get money. By the way, - the Phaeton? Are these the same people who ask us to go with the scooter and to refrain from meat and fish consumption? Or should we just abandon the car, so the thrifty with their Ökomobilen have free ride in a drunken stupor?

  7. Is naturally again all quite strange with the Bishop Kaessmann.
    Whether she was completely drunk after a bottle of wine already, I will also to be seen again, there are women who start since beginning. But she could no longer drive so, period (if the test was wrong because, because, although not now in this particular case, even heard of manipulation). The companion is also a bit dubious, as far as I know, you make yourself liable to prosecution if they can take an obviously intoxicated, and then next to full sets.

    But, with all of my consent to the rejection of the Afghanistan war by Ms. Further she: I also remember that she has recently spoken of the violent state Frühstkinderbetreuung the word.
    In this respect I am glad that her weight is now diminished.
    Others Conclusion: One should never draw yourself a Phaeton.

  8. Andrew says:

    The loans raised by the passenger is not personal, really just means that the type of constitutional protection and a V man ... is the woman Käsmann ratted and has possibly also incited to drink ....

    And to manipulate traffic lights really is the easy part ...

  9. Peter2509 said:

    Useless censorship page. It will be published only agreeable to the Editor. Will recommend you highly. Are already lots of pages of this manipulation. PICTURE you our opinion.

  10. Friederike Beck says:

    Yes, the topic Frühstkinderbetreuung I meant to curry favor with others the spirit. Because you have to be Christian so always ask: What would have Jesus. I let the little children he had first come to be blessed and then probably sent home. But Kaessmann is indeed next to the Afghanistan war theme also entered into another faux pas, which presumably. weighed even heavier.

  11. Friederike Beck says:

    This is all very speculative, dear Andrew, but as a working hypothesis - why not! You just have to follow up if there is to read on this subject at all what the near future: We are currently out of the scandals so no longer.

  12. Casey says:

    The whole thing with my wife Kaessmann seemingly being not completely kosher!
    You can now manipulate everything. let it be, perhaps on a birthday was to have been drinking wine really just a glass, who knows if her who has poured something that I find with the rigged lights and ugly, but it is also easy to manipulate blood samples! What was really going on, who wants to get rid of them if necessary? and what about the sacred privacy in this country going? Has also earned the MK. How can she resist that? they should perhaps say at the press conference: Oh, I think I have done what anyone there in the glass! How credible would that be? As one would have time researching what was really going on!

  13. GHH says:

    No, friends, it's too much Verschwörungsgeschwafel wafts through this republic. It really is enough! If the wine glass on the table and moves to the seltzer water. A highly ambitious woman, if she has scaled the zenith of its possibilities, it must (repeat, must) know that they can not afford a mistake after it has challenged the official opinion of such dictators. If they do not know - and this was clearly the case - then it is up to the office and their claims are not in themselves too. This not only justifies, but the withdrawal was mandatory. Unfortunately it has not exactly been seen absiolut, UDN what you could read here and elsewhere so it is necessary for this self-knowledge does not help.
    And now a word to the passenger. Whether his personal information had to be now held or not, she was solely responsible for their drinking behavior. That is one thing. The other thing is, it is very likely to have been a public figure, and not a V-man (too much is harmful Mystery), a person who did not want to be called as a companion of the divorced bishop. That may have very obvious reasons, which this report has strangely no one ever played.
    And finally, the obvious requirement for career women per se and to the public: Get used it from you, as members of this species to expect a woman to grant or bonus!

  14. GHH says:

    That would be really worth a search, dear Frederica Beck, right?
    Ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Putin's employees as a passenger? An injunctive action is absolutely no argument against the veracity of the allegation of the Hamburg lawyer. Psychologically seen quite the opposite.
    Here one could possibly arrive in the so-called leaders Lebensmorast this republic, while removing two incorrect icons very deserving of their places. This requires honesty and courage, because many unthinking contemporaries preserve their false idols like you want.

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