Margot Käßmann resignation: backgrounds.

If you look at what topics was Margot Käßmann, (freshly retired) Council of the Evangelical Church in Germany and Lutheran Bishop of Hanover in the last week in the headlines, one could know that they on the "Red List" of those who did distribute publicly through the media "grades" and to hunt for blow disgraced persons; Margot Käßmann had to be extra careful from now on. Obviously she was not aware enough ...

A church that does not interfere and zeitgeist pious a custom wallflower leads, the policy kisses the feet and everywhere holds itself incompetent in the evaluation of current events, people no longer need. She goes even their otherwise important function to set the state party at least a certain counterbalance. Such tame, rückratgebrochene, despondent church is certainly not in the following of Christ and falls to the right more and more into insignificance. What not least indicates leaving the church.

It was a sigh of relief by Germany, because for the first time in years, was a high-ranking church representative, the verfranste for Christmas not only in feeling blisses, but with a few words also to Afghanistan one - nudged public debate - long overdue.

Typical representative of a politically correct, docile churches (one) direction is a certain Mr. Klose (SPD), the good news do not know God is written on his face.

Of course, he complained in FIG sharp Käßmann of what she had said at Christmas in their much-discussed Christmas sermon and urged that she should be confined to the proclamation of the Word of God.

Limit? Limit? How limited you have to be to refer to something as a Comprehensive restriction? How about times with this word of God: "Thou shalt not kill!" Mr. Klose. Can they limited significance? Woe to the policy, if the churches suddenly that would take seriously what is written in the Gospels!

Be limited. What "barriers" had a wife Käßmann overlooked (before she allegedly ran a red light?)?

Margot Käßmann talked a lot, and I find something embarrassing in its submissions close to the zeitgeist. But but but but, lately they tried at one point, "to clean the temple" and since it was already persona non grata.

"Nothing is good in Afghanistan. All of these strategies, they have deceived us away long after that that soldiers employ weapons and even civilians are killed. [...] But weapons create obviously be no peace in Afghanistan. We need more imagination for peace, for all other forms to manage conflict. [...]
The daily press spread, Käßmann urge a rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan. The reason a quote Käßmann was headed: "Even after the broadest scales of the Evangelical Church in Germany, this war is so unjustifiable, so the violent conflict must be ended as soon as possible".

Margot Käßmann called in their Christmas sermon by no means an immediate withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, they wanted the "violent clashes ended as quickly as possible" see - but of course that did not bother anyone more than a mud battle was in full swing.

What Margot Käßmann has actually broken his neck, you can read in an interview that the Berliner Zeitung on, 24.12.2009 had with her. In it she touched some central dogmas and threw legitimate questions, which also provide historians so. And above all, she takes it very seriously, what is in the Gospels. And of course this too far.

Here are some relevant passages:

"It is a great mercy that we have not experienced war in their country since 1945. But it is also a reality prize to recognize that German soldiers are involved in a war. This has been ousted long. I am glad that this issue is back on the agenda. Germany is not only the third largest contingent in Afghanistan. We are also the third largest arms exporter. We also make money on the wars that we complain.
[...]
U.S. President Barack Obama has made ​​in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, the question of a just war.
We have said very clearly in our peace memorandum: There is no just war. There may be criteria by which one can justify a war, which I already would be difficult. But according to these criteria, is what happens in Afghanistan to justify in any way., It may just be a matter of asking, as we begin an orderly withdrawal and as a civil solution strategy can be found. This strategy is however not even wanted. Always say all end, now we have to intervene by force of arms, then there will be peace. I am convinced that there are other forms of mediation.

Question: So Obama is wrong when he talks about a just war?

For me there can be no just war. I can not justify it from a Christian perspective. To just peace I feel.

Question: Is war sometimes necessary, as Obama claims?

I can not see. What I would advocate would be a sort of police violence. I would imagine on a world level me that the UN is so equipped that they may exercise such police violence. War I do not legitimized, because by him always end up suffering from the civilian population.

Question: From a terrible war this country has gone. How would you meet the other can, as with violence?

The argument is always: Had the Allies not intervened, there would have been no peace Why there was no previous strategies.? Why the opposition was not strengthened in Germany? Why were the tracks leading to Auschwitz, not bombarded Finally, it always say: Now we need to use weapons. The price to be paid for this is enormous.

Question: appeasement has not impressed Hitler.

Nevertheless, war unleashes a potential for violence, for which I see no justification. War is wrong, destruction, rape in tow. War destroys all who are involved in it. I had recently visited soldiers who can not cope with their experiences. It is good that there is an increased awareness for this Christmas.

Question: Now wait Christians for over 2000 years to the peace of God. What comfort is the message of Christmas?

It is the constant reminder that God willeth. War should not be according to God's will, the churches have declared world in 1948. This announcement of an alternative society will bring people over and over again to reflect, to a decision of conscience against war and a clear commitment to their faith. Helmuth James Graf von Moltke about impresses me, who stood before the People's Court. He said: You can not shake my faith in me. You can sentence me to death, but I stand here with my belief that violence is the right attitude. I wish more people who rebel with their Christian convictions against violence and war and say., The hope of God's future gives me here and now to talk about the courage of another company "

With some of their statements are Käßmann was obviously on a collision course with the offizuellen civil religion.

That the Bischöffn with their question about the lack of support of the German resistance was more than right, is for example the excellent study of the Munich historian Wolfgang Eggert on this topic. The Allies supplied parts of the German resistance even to the Nazi henchmen from by she read aloud the names of those arrested are not in the BBC! ( Eggert: The betrayal of the Allies on the German resistance. )

Immediately let go one more reason against Käßmann sharpest chain dogs and wolves.

Michael Wohlfsohn expressed in PICTURE on 18.1.2010 as:

New fuss about Bishop Margot Käßmann!
The historian Michael Wolff son criticized the EKD Council sharp. Käßmann had declared in an interview with the "Berliner Zeitung", war could never be "fair". The Second World War she meant: Instead of Germany violently to rid the Allies should have been better before developing strategies and strengthen "the opposition in Germany".
Käßmann: "war is wrong, destruction, rape in tow. War destroys all who are involved in it. "
Wolff son told BILD: "Christianity knows very well just wars. Injustice and crime can be defeated otherwise sometimes not. When the war against the millions Killer Hitler was not fair for wife Käßmann, it has lost any scale, just Christian. "(Jm)

Wolfensohn is right: Christianity knows this just war - but is the Church's history and this is well known for many "good". But in the New Testament it says still: who take the sword will perish by it.

That the charismatic church woman may habitually zusprach a glass of wine, one could with some justification of a mirror-online-interview v. 20.3.2009 close with the Regional Bishop, in which you said:

Achim-Achilles.de: What do you do without now?
Käßmann: I renounce alcohol.
Achim-Achilles.de: difficult for you mean?
Can Yes, I realize at once how much a glass of wine in the evening a habit But I do not want fasting also make the law: Käßmann.. The old monks had as wonderful exceptions, such as the Sunday Times and "traveling".

Margot Käßmann it was so difficult quite to forgo a glass of wine. If I had to write a script, so I would add her a companion, which stimulates near her house to drink. Then give the police a tip at night, "respect the Käßmann comes." And that was it but then already.
Margot Käßmann is then actually put their own garage "snapped"!

Image: "The personal of her companion took the officials do not seem to, although that is prescribed. Why, is still unclear. "

Yes, that's strange. And why not consider this unknown "companion" the bishop because of driving from? Who is he anyway ... ??? If even the IMAGE comic is that it has not taken his personal ...

Because: 1.54 per thousand corresponds to full drunkenness or about an entire bottle of wine, with a weight of 55 kg as reported at 1.60 m height.

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14 Responses to "Margot Käßmann resignation: backgrounds."

  1. Föhnix says:

    > "Yes, that's strange. And why not consider this unknown "companion" the bishop because of driving from? Who is he anyway ... ??? If even the IMAGE comic is that it has not taken his personal ...
    >
    > Because: 1.54 per thousand corresponds to full drunkenness or about an entire bottle of wine, with a weight of 55 kg at 1.60 m size as reported ".

    Exactly! And she drove the same car as Jörg Haider: a VW Phaeton - which can not be a coincidence! ;-))

    No, seriously: of course it is about the war and its lobby. Between the lines Käßmann made that too clear that the Afghanistan war is the real subject at her resignation. Quote from their press conference:

    "The freedom to appoint, ethical and political challenges and to judge, I would in the future not as I had. The harsh criticism about in a sermon quote such as 'Nothing is good in Afghanistan' is only endure if personal persuasion is fully recognized. "

    What significance this has for them, you can see the fact that this statement was right at the beginning of their declaration.

  2. fashion mother says:

    That was my first thought - That's probably fallen into the trap! WHO BENEFITS ES ?? By 23 clock it bends at a red light right? 500 m in front of her apartment? She is drunk and the companion they can take the wheel? Does the no fear for his life? Since accidentally drives past a patrol and sees that? The patrol is of course faster front of their home before they can get! and they can blow? If they would have gotten, had they leave little blow, who should prove that it is driven ??? Of course, the whole thing falls in Lent under the motto "preach water and drink wine"
    Since they can only withdraw, maybe you will save a Unfall.wer know?

  3. Christian says:

    Went fortunately again lightly from her. Otherwise, the establishment uncomfortable people are there already some other things happened, which then usually were checked off as a tragic "accident" resulting in death. She has understood the hint, hint well. So I interpret at least her resignation.

  4. fiete says:

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  5. 1984 says:

    We live in a time of lies and every institution holds this upright. The only way to control the masses, manipulate, shape and use for own purposes. The average person on the street is not exempt, except those who consciously resist lies and greed. These are the bloggers and unsung heroes.

  6. Peter2509 says:

    If I'm driving and drunk in red across an intersection, I can do no conspiracy claims. Since I am a criminal who deliberately gefärdet the lives of others. Perhaps one should convert the Gehölter and modest car for the elite and environmentalists in vouchers. The versaufen but eh same everything they get money. By the way, - Phaeton? Are these the same people who ask us to ride the scooter and to refrain from meat and fish consumption? Or should we just do without the car, so have the free with their economical Ökomobilen while driving drunk driving?

  7. Magnus Goeller says:

    Is of course again all very strange with the Bishop Käßmann.
    Whether she was drunk after a bottle of wine, I will also once undecided; there are women who begin as getting started. But she could not drive anymore so, period (if indeed agreed to the test, have since, although now does not belong in this particular case, even tampering). The companion is of course somewhat dubious, because as far as I know, one makes himself liable to prosecution if you can drive a full obviously drunk and then sets next to it.

    But, with all of my consent to the rejection of the Afghanistan war by Mrs. Kaßmann: I also remember that she has recently state Frühstkinderbetreuung violently spoken the word.
    In this respect I am glad that her weight is now diminished.
    Other Conclusion: One should never draw myself a Phaeton.

  8. Andreas says:

    The passenger of the no personal data were recorded, can really only means that the type of constitutional protection or a V man is ... the woman Käsmann ratted and evt. Has also incited to drink. ...

    And manipulate traffic lights is probably the easiest exercise ...

  9. Peter2509 says:

    Useless censorship page. It will be published only agreeable letters to the editor. 'll Highly recommend. Are already plenty of this manipulation pages. IMAGE you our opinion.

  10. Friederike Beck says:

    Yes, the theme Frühstkinderbetreuung I meant, inter alia, to the zeitgeist with pandering. For we must always ask a Christian yes: What would have made Jesus. Ok he would let the little children come first to be blessed u. Then probably sent home. But Käßmann is also still entered into another faux pas in addition to the Afghanistan war theme, which presumably. even harder weighed.

  11. Friederike Beck says:

    This is all very speculative, dear Andreas, but as a working hypothesis - why not! Should we just continue to pursue, if it about this topic at all what to read in the near future are: We come from the scandals yes instantly can not stop.

  12. Casey says:

    The whole thing with woman Käßmann translucent me not to be completely kosher!
    You can manipulate everything today. maybe let it have been, really have only one glass of wine drunk, who knows whether her who has poured thing with the rigged lights I find unattractive, but it is also easy to manipulate blood samples! for a birthday What was going on really, who wants to get rid of them possibly? and what's wrong with the sacred privacy in this country? The MK has also earned. How can they expect to resist? should perhaps say at the press conference: oh, I think I have done what someone into the glass !! How credible would that be? As one would search times, what was really going on!

  13. GHH says:

    No, friends, it wafts too much Verschwörungsgeschwafel by this republic. It is really enough! Sets the wine glass on the table and returns to the seltzer water. A highly ambitious woman, if she has climbed the zenith of their means must (repeat must) know that they can not afford a mistake, after having challenged the official opinion of dictators such. If they do not know that - and that was clearly the case - then it is also not up to the office and their demands on themselves. This not only justifies, but that made the resignation mandatory. Unfortunately, she has exactly absiolut not see UDN what you could so read here and elsewhere, has not helped her in this necessary self-knowledge.
    And now a word to the rider. Whether his particulars had to be held or not: she was solely responsible for their drinking behavior. That's the one. The other thing is, it will most likely have been a public figure and not a V-man (too much Detectives are harmful); a person who declined to be named as a companion of the divorced bishop. That may have very obvious reasons, has, strangely, no one ever alluded to here.
    And finally the se obvious requirement of career women and to the public: Get used to it from, to expect a woman bonus as members of this species or grant!

  14. GHH says:

    That would be really worth a search, love Friederike Beck, right?
    Ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Putin-employee as a passenger? A penalty clause action is absolutely no argument against the truth of the assertion of the Hamburg lawyer. Psychologically, rather the opposite.
    Here you could possibly arrive at the so-called Lebensmorast. Executives of the republic, while very deserving remove two wrong icons of their seats. This requires honesty and courage, because many unthinking contemporaries their false idols would like to preserve.

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